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- Newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.prolog,comp.lang.python,comp.lang.dylan,comp.lang.eiffel
- Subject: Re: Language Implementation Survey
- Date: Sun, 31 Mar 96 07:01:04 GMT
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- In article <315D7800.75F5@panix.com> trimble@panix.com "Chris Trimble" writes:
-
- > Scott Leschke wrote:
- > >
- > > What is CL? Never heard of it unless this is a consistent typo
- > > of TCL which I found strangely absent.
- >
- > It stands for Common Lisp ... clearly the most preferred language in
- > the world (NOT!).
- >
- > I've never seen a survey quite this skewed towards AI. Common Lisp
- > tops C++ and C? Prolog beating Perl and Python AND Smalltalk? Right.
- > I have yet to meet a second person who uses Prolog daily (the first was
- > an AI professor a while ago).
-
- This is why I consider things like language surveys to be
- "flamebait". Nobody really cares what a survey will tell
- them, unless it confirms what they already believe. Anyway,
- the size of the data in this survey is way too small to be
- meaningful, and where was the data taken from? UseNet? How
- much does that tell us? Only what those who were prepared
- to respond might use.
-
- The results of the survey don't necessarily invalidate it,
- but the survey itself might. As I said, it's "flamebait".
-
- As for the alleged bias, please note at the start of that
- article:
-
- > Here are the survey results. The first two sections give the numbers
- > and percentages
- > for the languages respondents cited as their "most preferred." This is
- > followed by
- > detailed results for:
- > - all languages
- > - each language cited as most preferred, in order of popularity
- > - a combination of all Lisp languaes
- > - a combination of all languages except Lisp.
-
- This probably explains why there are some omissions, like VB and
- Forth. It also implies that there are no NT programmers using C!
- All it really means is that no such programmes responded to the
- survey.
-
- Ask yourself why this survey was crossposted to comp.lang.dylan
- and not comp.lang.lisp. Just treat it like flamebait and ignore
- it. It's not worth the effort.
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